Can the Plugin sync stock status to other wocommerc sits?

knutarn

Hi! 🙂
Can this plugin sync stock status of multiple online stores selling the same product?

Same as this one?

Salva

No, if you need to do so, this would need custom development.
ATUM actually works on the site where it is installed and is not syncing to/from other sites.

Best Regards,
Salva.

enfantterrible911

Salva particularly with multi-site inventory, this is a hard to understand limitation. Multisite inventory plugins should come with a minimum 2 website license and the stock levels should synchronize automatically and with the obvious ability to transfer inventory to the different locations.... this is what multi-site inventory management means..
I have 2 locations, but I have no use for frontend user selected location features, for many users like me the current limitations of the multi-site inventory addon is a bit more than the Custom Fields Plugin.
Sometimes I think woocommerce plugin developers don't have any hands on experience with inventory management systems, ATUM is not alone!
The answer suggesting custom development is disingenuous!

Forum_Admin

Hi enfantterrible911

Thank you very much for your comment.

I am very sorry you feel frustrated and dissapointed.

Not sure where this multi-site came from, we have never told anyone about multi-site feature. Its the oposite, we have mentioned for many years that we do not support multiple webshopes and we can not sync these. We do not plan to introduce such feature in the future as it is very much out of scope of our team capacity and the budget.

Our premium addon is called multi inventory as Woocommerce does not support multiple inventories per product.

So suggesting custom development from my team is the only way to achieve this.

Once again, I apologise for any inconvenience caused and will be happy to assist further with any questions or in the worst case scenario a refund.

Yours sincerely,

Pavel Minarik
CEO

enfantterrible911

Forum_Admin isn't multi-location inventory or multi-site inventory the same thing? It's a paid plugin, in my opinion it should have more automatic features, if there's no synching how is a company going to reconcile their inventory (easily)? From my understanding of your plugin, they would have to look the inventory levels at a remote location and then manually update it on the local system, if I'm correct, the plugin lacks some practicality.
to be clear, I'm not frustrated with you, at all.... it's just my opinion (personal) in working with Woocommerce plugins for a short time, many developers have never worked with inventory management in real life. Your base free plugin is actually pretty good, but it does have some weird limitations, i.e. the Purchase Price field (an example), what use is it that Advanced Custom fields can't do ? Other WooCommerce plugins can't see it, you can't export it..... what practical use does it have other than a manual reference field, I can't search for items that cost > $1,000 or items that cost < $1,000. Why can't some ATUM fields be associated with WordPress archive (unsure about my terminology) ?

Forum_Admin

Hi enfantterrible911 ,

Thank you very much for your reply.

Regarding the locations, that is internal feature where you can add location in the warehouse to a particular inventory. I am not really sure how and where you got misdirected, but I apologise.

Practicality comes in more depth as the plugin grows, we do not hide what the plugin does not contain. There is a very good and detailed documentantion. However, since the plugin was released we have doubled its size in term of features and compatibility.

I have spoken to my senior dev as I was not sure what you mean by some terms in the second part of your reply. Here is what he said:

The purchase price is not just a meta key like the ones you can create with ACF.
We use it for many other things internally. Like Purchase Orders, Dashboard widgets, etc.

And you can actually search by prices but it's true that we don't have such an advanced search like "greater than" or "lower than", etc

And regarding "Why can't some ATUM fields be associated with WordPress archive". I don't understand what the user means?
Perhaps they want to do some kind of custom loop and wanted to filter the query by a custom meta key. But ATUM doesn't use meta keys for its main core fields. Mainly due to performance reasons...
And ATUM is not the only plugin that does this. WC, for example, is moving all its core data from posts and meta keys to custom tables for the same reasons (HPOS, lookup tables, etc)...

Not sure if this helps in any way, but I can assure you as the time goes we will as we always do improve and expand our features. We listen to users and what they need and try to prioritize the development of features that is required by most.

The advance search for purchase price is already in the list for some time and I am sure it will be added in either during this year or the next.

Pavel

enfantterrible911

I'm not sure why you think, I'm criticizing your software personally, as I've stated I think your free plugin in is GREAT, and I never said your documentation is misleading.... I'm just suggesting your PAID plugins "could" be enriched. My original comment was in response to another user's question where you suggested the feature he wanted (inventory Syncing) could be done if he was willing to pay for the custom development..... and I was simply suggesting based on my experience with inventory management systems, this feature should be a standard feature for a PAID multi-location / multi-site plugin.
an example of the issue of the ATUM fields not being able to be accessible to other Wordpress plugins is i.e. WooCommerce Product Export plugins or Bulk Editor Plugin, some users might want to be able to adjust their product pricing to reflect updated costs if their product pricing on most products is formula based, i.e. ATUM cost field (multiply) x% = new WooCommerce Price (Excel or Plugin).
My personal 2 cents is you shouldn't look to other Woocommerce plugin as a guide, I've found many (being polite) fall short of real world practicality.
I've wasted too much of your time...... I'm just sharing my 2 cents worth opinions, for your sakes 🙂 no point in continuing this particular discussion.... I appreciate your Free plugin it helps me, I see issues with it, but for the price I have not right to complain and that was not my intent.

Forum_Admin

Hi enfantterrible911

Thank you very much for your reply.

No user has ever wasted any of my time. I do this because I actually enjoy working with people.

Returning to your last reply, you mentioned that inventory syncing should be part of a multisite and multi-location inventory management system. I have mentioned above that we do not have such a feature or paid module developed. We do not have, nor do we advertise, multisite features. Multi-Inventory means multiple inventories per product within one site installation.

I do not think we will ever develop a multisite solution because, according to our latest research, only a very small number of users who use WooCommerce implement multisite, and the development would be a nightmare. Covering all the different scenarios and plugins involved in user sites is merely and simply impossible. In my belief, WooCommerce and the WordPress environment are not the places where companies should set up their business if they handle multiple selling locations (this is my humble opinion as I run a food supplement manufacturing business myself across Europe). I recommend getting a single inventory management solution and establishing API connections to different webshops.

Anyway, I have gone a little off-topic, but please rest assured, you are not wasting any of my time. I'm glad to talk to users who have different opinions or business models.

Pavel